![]() ![]() Kobe has the slightest of edges here (slightly over 5 vs slightly under 5). For All Defense Kobe had 9 firsts and 3 seconds Some fans feel like Kobe was a bit overrated, but even assuming that’s true it’s just not even close. Kobe’s volume was more impressive because of his scoring relative to his team and the pace/physically of the game overall, but once again Steph is just too efficient for him not to be better overall - however I think it’s closer than I’ve seen a lot of people suggest recently. The average about the same from a career scoring standpoint (25 vs 24.3 with Kobe ahead) but Steph has a +7.8 rTS while Kobe has a +1.9. Steph has the edge here due to efficiency. Was 1st team all defense and was unquestionably better than Steph on that end. Had the highest % of his teams PPG as anyone in history not named wilt chamberlain. Kobe had 35/5/5 with above average but not amazing efficiency. Historic season (15-16), and it happened recently enough and is still talked about enough that I feel like it doesn’t need to be gone over too much. Steph had 30/5/7 on incredible all time efficiency but was very lack luster on defense. Because of his offensive dominance I could see a lot of people putting Steph here, but I think Kobe has a great argument too mostly because of his defense. Steph All NBA team: 4 firsts, 3 seconds, 1 third Kobe All NBA teams: 11 firsts, 2 seconds, 2 thirds Over the course of 8 years Steph was top 5 in MVP 4 times (14/15-21/22) Over the course of 12 years Kobe placed top 5 in MVP 11 times (01/02-12/13) Kobe clearly has this as of right now, Steph still has time but just hasn’t piled up as many seasons being elite as Kobe has. We check every one, whether it seems like we do or not.Ī lot of talk recently seems to be focused around Steph being a top 10 player, and I was curious to see who was better and what your guys’ opinion on it was Please report content that breaks the rules. If you have any questions or concerns, don’t hesitate to contact us via modmail. GOAT, all-time, top 10, or player A vs B posts of all kinds will be removed. Player ranking and comparisons are not permitted. The minimum number of characters needed for a post to not be filtered is 350 characters. Post enough content to provide a jumping-off point. Posts essentially equivalent to “Thoughts?” or “Discuss” are low effort and those posts will be removed. A leading question can be effective, but if you wish to discuss a stance, make it clear where you stand so commenters can address that directly. Asking a well-defined question is a good way to start. Present descriptive, clear, and concise titles. For top-level comments, a character minimum of 75 is in place. Most arguments cannot be deconstructed in one sentence. Accept and acknowledge if you cannot maintain your original argument. This includes your youtube video, website, blog, or twitter.Īttack the argument, not the person. Don't downvote just because you disagree. Vote based on whether the post or comment appears to meet the standards for quality you expect from a discussion subreddit. Unless it is undeniable fact, the burden of proof falls upon the person making the claim. Basketball Reference), and your own statistical analyses should be provided when it strengthens your point. Proofs from trusted NBA reporters, databases (e.g. Support claims with substantiated arguments. Low effort content, including jokes, memes, fanbase attacks, or shitposts will be removed as the moderators see fit. This subreddit is for high quality discussion of the NBA, past, present, and near future. Speak with others how you would like to be spoken with. ![]() Please do not refer mockingly to /r/nba and its users. Do not name call, condescend, or belittle others. Jordan had MVP votes every year including 6 his rookie seasonĪs you can tell, i'm not showing any favoritism.This subreddit is for serious, high-quality NBA discussion.Jordan's was All-NBA 1st team every year until he was 28 except for his rookie year where he was ranked #2 (and injured 2nd year).Jordan's Win Shares was first in the league every year until he was 28 except for his rookie year where he was ranked #2 (and injured 2nd year).LeBron is ranked #2 behind Jordan for Career PER Jordan's Player Efficiency rating was first in the league every year until he was 28 except for his rookie year where he was ranked #2 (and injured 2nd year).Jordan only played 18 games in his second season but averaged 37 the following year.Jordan played 3 years in college and was a 21 year old rookie.Here's a couple of things to consider before looking at the stats and cursing out people that disagree with you. It's just an interesting graphic with some interesting stats that serves as a catalyst for some fun conversations. This infographic is not meant to be the end all arguments when comparing the three NBA greats.
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